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    1. *** JuiceDefender BETA: important announcements

      Wanna make JuiceDefender better? Join the beta group to be always up to date with the latest (and usually the greatest) experimental builds; the beta group feedback is the centerpiece of the development process – you will be shaping the app you love! We’re always looking for committed testers and inspiring ideas :)

      You can help with testing work-in-progress features, improving support for your device, or joining the discussion about new features and improvements.

      If you wish to participate in the beta group, you should:
      - subscribe to *this* thread (vote it) to get important announcements about new builds, ongoing… more

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        started  ·  MarkAdminMark (Dev, Latedroid) responded

        Quite some builds since v3.6.6! Development is moving forward fast on several parallel paths; as of v3.7.3, this is the feedback I need:

        - AOSP helper (rooted only): if installation failed before, try again – if it fails again send the log and let me know here: http://feedback.latedroid.com/forums/70437-general/suggestions/1053767-aosp-helper-all-you-need-to-know

        - LTE-capable phones (only if the AOSP helper installed): http://feedback.latedroid.com/forums/70437-feedback/suggestions/2235451-4g-lte-support-

        - the new Location is getting fixes and improvements at every build – lemme know if it works better or worse: http://feedback.latedroid.com/forums/70437-feedback/suggestions/1319595

        - MMS problems: MMS should work reliably as of v3.7.3 but it’s 100% untested, so please share your findings: http://feedback.latedroid.com/forums/70437-feedback/suggestions/1172191-mms-sending-receiving-not-working

        - remotely disable JD via SMS: try it and tell me if it works! http://feedback.latedroid.com/forums/70437-feedback/suggestions/2126315-enable-data-if-the-phone-receives-a-sms-with-a-cer

      • JuiceDefender changelog

        The changelog is updated for every build.
        Save for some rare internal-only builds, the latest beta build can be downloaded manually from http://latedroid.com/latestdev

        After some time (depending on the necessary testing) most of these builds will be made available on the Market public beta - http://getbeta.juicedefender.com

        The current "stable" version is v3.9.3

        ***Please do NOT comment on this thread***

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          started  ·  MarkAdminMark (Dev, Latedroid) responded

          v3.9.4: [market, latestdev]
          - fixes
          - intro screen for new users
          ________________

          v3.8.8beta:
          - workaround for silly Bluetooth bug in Android 2.3.4+ (apparently only affecting some Samsung firmwares)

          v3.8.7beta:
          - minor fixes

          v3.8.6beta:
          - added “set minimum brightness” for Brightness
          - added per-network “keep enabled” for Location
          - AOSP helper fix for 2.3.7
          - minor fixes

          v3.8.5beta:
          - several fixes and improvements

          v3.8.3beta:
          - added customized sync frequency for sync accounts!
          - added per-app custom controls (mobile data, wifi, wifi forced, bluetooth) in the Apps trigger
          - support for WiFi-only tablets in the free version
          - some fixes

          v3.8.2beta:
          - fixed night/peak schedules only starting the first time
          - fixed a bug in Traffic
          - fixed other stuff (honestly I forgot what it was)
          - reworked the widgets, improved “user” control
          - added network mode widget
          - added Bluetooth enable/connect in QuickBox
          - sat view on “view location”
          - UI… more

        • Bluetooth control

          I've just got the full version of juice defender and it's fantastic! Any chance of a bluetooth function to switch it off it it hasn't been connected for, say, 5 mins? I use bluetooth to connect to my car handsfree and it would be great if i didn't have to turn it off manually after getting out of the car. Thanks!

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          • Disable/Enable GPS automatically

            Feature that enable automatically GPS when Maps or Navigation or others apps configured in a control list and then disable GPS when not needed any more

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              started  ·  PercivalPercival responded

              @Felix

              Dev is working on it, maybe you’ll have it soon…

              @masterjo

              Nope, the feature doesn’t work the same way as Android default. The thread will remain opened.

            • *** Here be discussion! ***

              Please DO comment on this thread - about anything! And make sure to vote it to get updates!

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                under review  ·  467 comments  ·  [BETA] Development  ·  Admin →
              • Add legend for colors to JuicePlotter.

                It is difficult to understand exactly what the colors mean on the graph. I would be helpful for new users to see a legend either when they first run the program our in the help screen.

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                  under review  ·  BreeceAdminBreece (Support, Latedroid) responded

                  I know we have been very silent about JuicePlotter BUT we have not abandoned it :)
                  Actually our dev has been working quite a lot on JuicePlotter and a new, awesome, fast version is on the horizon.

                  You have been patient for quite a while, you will get rewarded for that!

                • Installing Plus/Ultimate crashes the launcher/home

                  Read this if after installing Plus or Ultimate, you get a dialog saying "process com.android.launcher (or com.sonyericcson.homescreen) has stopped working" - either immediately or after a reboot.

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                    started  ·  MarkAdminMark (Dev, Latedroid) responded
                    Current status

                    v3.7.5beta should fix the issue for SE X10 (and variations), X8, and LG Optimus V.

                    Procedure:
                    - uninstall JD (or JD beta) and JD Plus/Ultimate
                    - reboot
                    - reinstall JD beta + JD Plus/Ultimate
                    - reboot
                    - hopefully there should be no FC :)

                    If it works, please report in the comments!

                    If the launcher still crashes:
                    - open JD, go to the About tab, scroll to the bottom, tap on ‘send log’, tap ‘ok’, pick your email app
                    - edit the subject by inserting “LAUNCHER” at the end
                    - send the mail

                    Temporary workaround

                    Quite simply, use a different launcher, like LauncherPro or ADW – they’re on the Market

                    Why does this happen?

                    The cause is a rather poor implementation of their “differentiating” customized launchers by the manufacturers. JuiceDefender uses one particular API call, which is admittedly rarely used, but part of the standard APImore

                  • Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS)

                    If you have any problems with JD and ICS please report to this thread and vote here :)
                    We are working on ICS but it will take a while!

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                      under review  ·  BreeceAdminBreece (Support, Latedroid) responded

                      Dear Users,

                      we are back on track fixing those ICS bugs / problems you are having.
                      If you are on a Galaxy Nexus please visit this thread:
                      https://latedroid.uservoice.com/forums/70437-feedback/suggestions/2765962-ics-galaxy-nexus-lte

                      If your screen does not turn back on please visit this thread
                      https://latedroid.uservoice.com/forums/70437-feedback/suggestions/2790553-ics-screen-will-not-turn-back-on

                      What problems are you having? Please state your device and the specific problem.
                      So far we know of these ones (please also tell us if you are having one of those problems !)

                      Timeout function
                      Interactive Apps trigger doesnt notice apps
                      CPU freezes
                      Wifi enabling / disabling problems
                      ASOP helper cannot be installed (does it still work as IF it is installed?)

                      Thank you very much. On a side note: Please make sure you installed the latest beta of JD from the android market AND try these steps:

                      Uninstall JD & JD+ & Ultimate
                      Reboot
                      Delete the JuiceDefender.backup file in your “Download” folder on your SDcard.
                      Reboot
                      Install JDbeta… more

                    • Location problems and suggestions

                      Discuss problems and suggestions for Location here - but please read the article "Understanding Location" first: http://feedback.latedroid.com/knowledgebase/articles/28259-understanding-location

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                        started  ·  MarkAdminMark (Dev, Latedroid) responded

                        UPDATE: v3.6.8 is out (latestdev) with a brand new Location algorithm. For the sake of testing, please clear all your locations (or try the new view/auto-reset) and restart from scratch :)
                        Training works as before (conceptually) but the uber-expansion should be prevented in most cases.
                        Share your results!
                        _______________
                        Ah, that’s interesting! (@Bubo)
                        This is what I mean by “location gets polluted by stray readings” – for whatever reason (ahem radio firmware bugs) the normal cell kicks out the phone, which then connects, even if for only a couple of seconds, to a cell much farther away; in the long term this will result in pitiful Location accuracy.

                        So, some possible ways to circumvent this:
                        - have an option to set lat/lon/accuracy manually
                        - have a manual ‘freeze’ button for each location that would prevent further “expansion”
                        - have a global “max radius” option for all locations
                        -… more

                      • AOSP helper: all you need to know

                        The mystery is explained here!

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                          started  ·  MarkAdminMark (Dev, Latedroid) responded

                          FEEDBACK REQUIRED:
                          - Nexus 1/S + CM7: anybody can confirm whether this issue http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=2928 has been fixed? I.e. is network mode switching working without nasty side effects?

                          - Installation failures (other than on HTC devices with S-ON)? (remember to send a log! If the app gets stuck, terminate and reopen it – or reboot – then send log immediately)

                          - LTE phones: more reports are needed! See here: http://feedback.latedroid.com/forums/70437-feedback/suggestions/2235451-4g-lte-support-


                          GENERAL INFORMATION

                          What’s the AOSP helper?

                          The AOSP helper circumvents some Android limitations that would otherwise make it impossible to perform certain operations.

                          Currently the AOSP helper, if installed and functioning, can:
                          1. perform network mode switching (sometimes called band switching) between 2G/3G/4G
                          2. control the Background Data setting (in addition to the Auto-sync setting)
                          3. enable and disable GPS

                          While #2 and #3 are only really useful, from a battery consumption perspective, in some very specific circumstances, #1 often… more

                        • Juice Defender doesn't automatically start after boot

                          I recently updated the version of Juice Defender on my Samsung Galaxy S and the new version appears to no longer automatically starts when the phone is switched on. However, it starts fine when I go in and enter the App.

                          Is there anything I can do to make it auto start?

                          Juice Defender (Free - 3.5.6)
                          Android (2.2.1)

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                            started  ·  MarkAdminMark (Dev, Latedroid) responded

                            v3.7.5beta has a workaround in About/Troubleshooting – the “dump everything related to Android fragmentation here” section.

                            Lemme know how (and if) it works!

                          • Screen brightness issues

                            Brightness control is here! It probably has issues! Let's talk about them! :)

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                                planned  ·  11 comments  ·  [BETA] Development  ·  Admin →
                              • Honeycomb support

                                Iconia Tab, Xoom, Galaxy Tab, EEE Pad, etc.

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                                  under review  ·  MarkAdminMark (Dev, Latedroid) responded

                                  Guys, a bit of patience! JD is still completely untested on Honeycomb, and it’s not really surprising that it causes problems; anyway I should be able to see what’s going soon-ish – I have an A500 too, but it has some issues that prevent me to use it as a testing device at the moment.

                                  So, stay tuned for the Honeycomb compatibility update :) (just to be clear, at this stage I cannot guarantee JD will work at all on Honeycomb – but fingers crossed)

                                • System package issues (AOSP Helper)

                                  Post here if you have problems with the system package autoinstall feature (v3.4.0+) - logcats (email or pastebin) would certainly be much helpful for this specific thing.

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                                    started  ·  BreeceAdminBreece (Support, Latedroid) responded

                                    UPDATE:
                                    Please try both and report back how it works :) And update to 3.4.6 ;)


                                    tl;dr: “remove system package”, update to v3.4.1, report again!
                                    -

                                    This is just AMAZING! Thanks everybody for the awesome feedback!

                                    This is obviously a delicate issue and there are a number of problems to address, so it’s better to handle them one at a time.
                                    Let’s start with the lost-after-reboot one. It took a lot of checks and workarounds coding but 3.4.1 should survive reboots (and updates). It’s been tested on CM6.1.1 and stock Gingerbread – but I’m sure all the ROMs out there do things differently, so keep the feedback coming!


                                    IMPORTANT: “About”/scroll to bottom/“remove system package” BEFORE upgrading to v3.4.1 (or you’ll have to delete a spurious apk with other means – not sure if its presence is harmful for v3.4.1).

                                    To completely remove JD you will probably need… more

                                  • 4G LTE support

                                    This thread is about adding LTE support to JuiceDefender's network mode switching. The AOSP helper is *required*.

                                    This thread is for LTE phones only (Verizon) - not for WiMax (Sprint) ones!

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                                      under review  ·  MarkAdminMark (Dev, Latedroid) responded

                                      Known devices

                                      HTC Thunderbolt

                                      stock 2.2.1 – LTE enabled (what’s it called exactly?): 8LTE disabled (?): 4LTE only (is it available?): ?

                                      stock 2.3.x: LTE enabled (what’s it called exactly?): 8LTE disabled (?): 4LTE only: 11 or 12 ?

                                      Droid Bionic

                                      stock 2.3.4 – CDMA/LTE: 7CDMA only: ?

                                      UNL3ASH3D v1.3 – CDMA/LTE: 7CDMA only: 4

                                      Droid Charge

                                      ???

                                      LG Revolution 4G

                                      ???

                                      Galaxy Tab 10.1

                                      ???

                                      Current status

                                      Things might be worse than I expected. I’m getting few and contradictory IGT reports, and it seems possible that every phone (or, even worse, firmware) uses different network mode “codes”.

                                      First, an explanation: network modes are basically just two: LTE enabled or LTE disabled. You can manually switch network mode by going to Home/Menu/Settings/Wireless/Mobile networks – there should be an option called “network mode”,… more

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                                        started  ·  BreeceAdminBreece (Support, Latedroid) responded

                                        Update:
                                        @All translators:

                                        First of all thank you again for all the help so far :)
                                        I have good news:
                                        You are done with your translation? You want to help translating, but your language is already done OR you dont feel comfortable translating?
                                        Worry no more !
                                        We need a comment for every string (see attached picture).
                                        The comment should state where exactly this string is to be found so the one translating can take this into consideration for translating it :) (Context is the keyword here)

                                        http://www.imagebanana.com/view/w37tidw9/Example.jpg
                                        First: WHAT is it (in this case a button label, which means it should be short)
                                        Second: WHERE is it

                                        Ps.: To be honest: I know this kinda sucks.. but if we do it together it will be done quickly and improve future translations! You can comment in any language file, as comments are universal through all translations but please comment in… more

                                      • Bad array lengths

                                        This should only happen on some ROMs when CPU control is enabled. If you're getting this in the log and CPU control is unavailable or disabled, please leave a comment!

                                        As this bug is quite rare, it won't be backported to the 1.x branch - disable CPU control for now, or try the 2.x betas! (http://latedroid.com/beta)

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                                        • ICS Galaxy Nexus LTE

                                          This thread is for ICS Galaxy Nexus users that are having problems with JD.
                                          Please give us some feedback on what problems you are having.

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                                            under review  ·  BreeceAdminBreece (Support, Latedroid) responded

                                            This thread is for ICS Galaxy Nexus users that are having problems with JD.
                                            Please give us some feedback on what problems you are having.

                                            Please do the following (if you havent already)

                                            Uninstall JD & JD+ & Ultimate
                                            Reboot
                                            Delete the JuiceDefender.backup file in your “Download” folder on your SDcard.
                                            Reboot
                                            Install JDbeta & JD+ / Ultimate (depending on what you purchased)
                                            Do NOT restore your settings.

                                            Then test again. If that still does not help please try to reproduce the problem and send a log through JD (help tab, scroll down).

                                            Your eMail app will pop up. Please include the word “breece” in the subject and a short description of the problem in the mail itself. Thank you again

                                          • ICS Screen will not turn back on

                                            If you are having the problem that once in a while your screen does not turn back on please post the following details here.

                                            Your phone / ROM / anything that might help reproduce this error.

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